Linda Meilan and Gus Engleman at WABC
(photo courtesy John Meagher)
Musicradio WABC fans certainly remember Gus Engleman from
WABC News.
His voice was frequently heard on the station.
But you probably didn't now Linda Meilan's name.
She too had a long career at WABC and has
some terrific insights about her time and the people at the station.
Thanks to Scott Benjamin for the interview!
Linda Meilan, who came to Musicradio77 WABC straight from college in
1963 and who was with the ABC network until 1986, said that Scott Muni, who was the
evening air personality when she arrived was a charismatic figure and one of the
best-looking men that I ever saw.
You wouldnt want to talk about a book with Scott, you
would want to talk about music because he followed it very closely, she said of the
longtime New York City air personality, who left WABC in August 1965 and then spent many
years as one of the top FM announcers in the Big Apple.
"Scott was effective in using double entendres in his
ad-libs on the air, as was [longtime WABC afternoon air personality] Dan Ingram, but it
sometimes was a little more sexual than what Dan used, Linda recalled during a Sept.
23, 2006 phone interview with Musicradio77.com from her home in Pompton Plains, N.J.
Linda, who answered some of Scotts fan mail for a while, said
that because Scott was the best friend of Sam Holman, who was the program director at WABC
when she arrived, Rick Sklar, who was then the promotions director and later succeeded Sam
as the program director, was never comfortable with Scott.
She lauded Rick, saying that he made intelligent decisions that made
WABC the top-rated station in New York City for years.
Of all the program directors through the years at WABC, he was
the one who was totally in charge and had the most clear idea of what he was doing,
said Linda, who was a beloved figure at WABC for many years.
Most of the time the general manager was someone from sales
that knew nothing about programming, so Rick really had free reign to program the
station, she said.
Linda worked in programming in the 1960s, primarily as an assistant
for some of the non-music operations, such as Howard Cosells Speaking of Sports
commentaries and his weekly Speaking of Everything interview show.
He was smarter than the television program directors of today,
because he didnt make the error of moving shows all the time, she said of
Rick.
Linda said that Dan Ingram wanted the morning show in September 1968
when Herb Oscar Anderson left, but that Rick realized that Dan was better suited for the
afternoons and that it if he did move him to the morning shift it would mean finding a
worthy successor for the afternoon show, which had been getting high ratings.
Instead, Harry Harrison was hired from WMCA and stayed until November
1979, when Dan Ingram replaced him.
Dan returned to the afternoons in the spring 1981. Al Brady, the
program director who made those decisions in 1979, has stated to Musicradio77.com that
putting Dan in the morning didnt work out as well as the station had hoped.
Some observers have said that with all of the traffic and weather
coverage in the morning, it gave Dan less room to operate. However, he had been successful
as the morning air personality in other markets in the 1950s before coming to WABC in July
1961.
Linda said that Ricks emphasis on short play lists and a small
music rotation helped boost WABC to the top of the ratings.
She also said that as a result of watching colleagues at WINS
implicated as part of a payola scandal in the early 1960s, Rick was very paranoid
about payola.
He went to great lengths to make sure that it wasnt going
to happen at WABC, Linda said.
She said that Rick was kind and fun-loving but also had a
vindictive side that she partly attributed to being in a job where you
always have to be watching your back.
Linda said that some of the air personalities would play
games through practical gags on Rick.
She said that for a while Dan Ingram would snip some string from the
pull on the light in the program directors office and after a while Rick thought
that he was shrinking as he had to reach higher to reach the string.
Linda said veteran midday air personality Ron Lundy said that went
Rick established a system with color-coded music carts, Ron told him that he couldnt
distinguish between them because he was color-blind.
Regarding Howard Cosell, Linda said that she enjoyed working with
him, partly because he had a brilliant mind and was a strait-laced person who
was devoted to his family.
He gave some of the athletes free legal advice and then would
get an exclusive interview with them, she said of Howard, who was a lawyer before
entering broadcasting at age 37.
I would write a summary of someones book and he could
read it once, throw it in the trash and then do a brilliant interview for Speaking of
Everything, Linda said of the interview show that ran for many years on Sunday
nights on ABCs American Contemporary Network, including WABC.
She said that she wasnt surprised that Howard continued to do
his radio commentaries and Speaking of Everything well after he became established as a
television personality on ABCs Monday Night Football.
It was his home, the place where he got his start, Linda
said of his association with Musicradio77 WABC.
He also believed in the radio medium and felt that it
wasnt as artificial as television, she said.
Linda - a native of Butler, N.J. who has a long interest in the
theater - applied for a position at ABC after graduating with an associates degree
in Communications from Centenary College in Hackensack, N.J.
I went through the broadcasting companies and ABC was at the
beginning of the alphabet, she said with a laugh.
Linda said although Herb Oscar often read The New York Daily News
while the music was on the air, the sales department was concerned when he left the
station in 1968.
She said that the salesman feared that some advertisers might leave
since they wanted Herbs live reads of their commercials.
Herb said in a June 2005 phone interview with Musicradio77.com that
he left WABC after nearly eight years because of the acid rock that was being played on
the air and a desire to spend more time with his family.
However, Linda said that Herb asked Don Curran, the general manager
at the time, for several consecutive weeks of vacation.
Don, who had been in promotions and programming before becoming
general manager, knew that such an arrangement could create discontinuity and hurt the
ratings.
Herb said he was going to quit, and Don asked him when his last
day would be, Linda recalled.
She said that Herbs immediate successor, Harry Harrison, who
had been the midday air personality on rival WMCA, boosted the ratings for the morning
show over the following years.
Harry was the nicest person but was a little nervous on the
air, she said, noting that she ran the control board for his show during a strike by
the technical engineers.
She said of the air personalities, that Dan Ingram was the most
intelligent.
Dan could talk about anything, Linda said.
However, she said that when she first met him, he was overweight and
didnt maintain a tidy appearance.
Linda said those factors changed after he married his second
wife.
I loved Chuck, she said longtime WABC late-night air
personality Chuck Leonard. He was like the friend you had in high school that was
really cool and you wanted to hang out with.
She said that she became friendly with one of Chucks girl
friends and the three of them and Chucks mother took a brief vacation together in
Las Vegas.
Brucie was like a big kid, she said of Cousin Brucie, who
was at the station from 1961 to 1974. He had a lot of enthusiasm for
life.
In her early years at WABC, Linda said she worked on some of his
remote broadcasts that Brucie did at Palisades Amusement Park, which closed in September
1971.
Im a Jersey girl, so I miss Palisades, she said of
the large amusement park that advertised regularly on WABC.
It had a large saltwater pool and one of the biggest roller
coasters in the world, as well as two or three other roller coasters, she
said.
Regarding the sales department, Linda said that Larry Wynn was
the best broadcasts salesperson that I ever saw.
Larry had several accounts, including the famous commercials on the
overnight show for Dennison, the mens clothier in Union, N.J.
He was a very charismatic person who had been in Vaudeville
years ago and had written music for Broadway plays, Linda said of the reasons why
Larry was so successful in sales. He also gave me the best advice when he said that
when youre selling radio time you are working for both the station and the
advertiser. You want to service the advertisers needs because you want them to
continue to do business with the station.
You could make a fortune in sales in those days at WABC,
she said. The people in corporate saw that he was making the ninth highest amount of
money at ABC, so they cut back on the commissions rather than having Larry Wynn teach, for
example, the television salespeople how to improve their sales. Their logic was
crazy.
After Lindas first husband was killed in an accident, WABC
morning news anchor John Meagher and his wife, Sally, consoled her, and eventually she
dated their mutual friend, WABC news reporter Gus Engleman. They married in the
mid-1970s.
Gus had come to WABC in the late 1960s after covering the police beat
for the Journal American, which became the World Journal Tribune before he went out of
business.
He loved to cover politics and crime, Linda said of her
late husband. He was very smart, very animated, very funny and loved New York.
He never got over the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn and continued to
root for them when they went to Los Angeles, he said.
He never could have become a reader-writer because of his
Brooklyn accent, she said. Besides he didnt want to be in a news room
all day. He wanted to be on the street covering stories.
Later, after WABC became a talk station, Gus was hired as the
director of public relations for the Jacob Javits Convention Center, which is named after
the former U.S. senator from New York state.
I dont think he was initially particularly interested in
public relations, but he did enjoy it, Linda said.
He later taught public relations classes part-time at New York
University.
After leaving WABC, Linda worked on research and sales systems for
the ABC owned and operated FM stations. She stayed with the network until 1986, when she
became an account executive with NBC radio.
She later was national sales manager for WOR radio in New York
City.
Today Linda does volunteer work for her church and frequently attends
Broadway shows.
I came to New York
City years ago to become a theatrical actress, but I got caught up in broadcasting,
she said.
I think a lot of the young people working at WABC in the 1960s
and early 1970s thought that this must be the way radio is everywhere, Linda
recalled. We probably figured everyone had 20 shares and every radio at Jones Beach
and the beaches on the Jersey shore was tuned to WABC.
Those jingles that were on the air just stayed in your
head, she recalled. There was a subliminal message there.
I dont think there ever will be a radio station like that
again, she said, noting that WABC at one time had 8 million listeners a week.
It all came along at the right time.
If it had been the 1950s, it would have been too early because there wasnt enough good music then, Linda said. By the mid-1970s, you could see that FM was having an influence. The 1960s and the early 1970s were the right time for a station like WABC.
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